Could more Conservatives and Labour MPs defect? - Post Brexit?

Daily Mail: Reports " Up to TWENTY more Tory and Labour MPs 'are ready to jump ship and join new Independent Group' after Three Amigo Conservative defectors swelled movement's ranks "

Lets Get Real:

The Independent Group has a lot of GENERALS, but so far no foot soldiers, who will be their local associations, who will knock on doors to tell the voters about their MP.  Who will place campaign material in envelopes, who will fund this new group or party.  As a group and not a Party the group will have to pay for their own photocopying, they will not get any short money, that is to pay for researches and admin etc.  Also a new poll in the Daily Mail from the UK Times shows the new group on 14%, while the Conservatives are on 38%, I know which Party I would want to belong too.   What happens when the press attention dies down or May gets a DEAL.   What does this new group or PARTY stand for, will its policies be centre left or right, it will it depend on the level of former LABOUR or CONSERVATIVE MPs in the new group.  My prediction is that his group or PARTY will fail, they need time, for that they need for there not to be a general election, thus in some way they have to keep the Conservatives in power, that will not go down well with the left wing media or those that say that they support this new group. 

May on the Irish Backstop - Brexit Update 1 - Post Brexit

Sky News: Reports " PM's 'constructive' talks with Jean-Claude Juncker after EU official's close shave..Theresa May and the European Commission chief make "progress" as they seek to reach a breakthrough with just 37 days until Brexit.  "

Lets Get Real:

One can only hope that PM May can get some kind of concession out of the EU, otherwise the HARD REMAINERS could take control of Brexit policy at the end of the month.   The HARD BREXIT supporters might have to hold their nose and vote for the May Deal, otherwise they face losing BREXIT and the UK not leaving the EU on March 29th.   The HARD BREXIT supporters are Conservative AFTER ALL, Conservatives do not believe in revolutions, we still have problems with the French Revolution!!  The PM has to get over to the EU that IF there are no concessions the UK could leave with a NO DEAL BREXIT, this would damage the UK and the EU, the Republic Ireland would need to be bailed out by the EU for the 2nd time.  Next week will be interesting, we should have a result either way, Brexit or an extension of Article 50 and the remainers running the show. 

Corbyn on Labour Defectors - Post Brexit?

BBC News: Reports " Labour MPs who have quit the party should "resign and put themselves up for election", Jeremy Corbyn has said.  "

Lets Get Real:

The above is NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, the defecting MPs know that if they called by - elections they would be out on their ears.   They are not a political party yet, they have no manifesto, they have no local association, although the left media will give them media time, the Party stamp still carries more weight.   Thus if Corbyn presents another No Confidence vote will the the Independent Group vote for it, if they do that they are turkeys voting for Christmas.   The UK has a first pass the post electoral system, no PR, so no matter what percentage this new group gets in the polls, that does not mean they could win their own seats or any other seats.   Those on the Labour and Conservative benches with a political brain will only move if they think they have a chance of keeping their SEATS, if the new group is seen as a vanity project then they will fail.  The record of third parties in the UK is not good, the Conservative and Labour Parties have a BRAD and loyal voters, just because they might disagree on Brexit, it does not mean they will change their votes.   It will be interesting to see who leads the new group and what other policies they will have, so far they do not have anything beyond Brexit, when they start to have policies that could put off Labour and Conservative MPs.  One only hopes that PM May brings back a DEAL from the EU.